You're right honesty. When I typed in Jehovah's Witnesses about 2 1/2 years ago I found ex-JW's instead.
Thank God for Google
would the internet have been banned ouright from the beginning?
it seems like they have been trying to reign in control of jw's use of the internet for the last few years but pandora's box has already been opened.
if they had just banned it from the beginning many dubs would have been afraid that if they went on the ineternet they would immediately be possesed by demons.
You're right honesty. When I typed in Jehovah's Witnesses about 2 1/2 years ago I found ex-JW's instead.
Thank God for Google
why is it that a jw is considered "spiritually sick" by the elders and the members of the congregation, if he suddenly decides to stop going to meetings and doesn't see eye to eye with the organization anymore?.
i see people who belong to other faiths, and are very active and seem spiritually healthy, even though they don't believe in what jw's teach.. .
i've been told by elders, that i was "spiritually sick".
It is truly amazing how God works in ones life in 'the real world' (outside of JW fantasy land). Some of you have read my brief introduction and heard about the dread I felt in my last years as a dub. Well, lately I've been questioning absolutely everything about spirituality - the Bible, the so-called "Jesus myth" and all organized religion, and the only conclusion I have come to is that I KNOW there is a God and he loves me. I even wondered yesterday why I still close my prayers with "in Jesus name" - but I thought 'it feels right so I'll keep doing it'.
Well, last night I went to a new hairdresser and she started witnessing to me about Jesus. I could feel the spirit of God coming from within her. She calmed my nerves by talking about the Lord and her personal relationship with him. She is not RELIGIOUS even though she attends church faitfully. She spoke of how many religions are not teaching people the truth - there's so much more to her testimony than I can say here but the bottom line is that I was so moved and felt that God is reaching out to me to give me another leg up on my journey to peace and real fulfillment through a close personal relationship with him. Could I get this at the KH? Not in a million years! There is no Holy Spirit there - it's a spiritual wasteland. The Bible they use is tainted and the literature they study is uninspired. They are not trying to lead people to the Lord - but to the Borg, to be assimilated and become part of the money making machine.
The only reason I would go to a KH would be for a wedding or a funeral - and the only reason to do that is to support someone I love. I don't want to hear anything JW's have to say. They make me (spiritually) sick.
I accepted the Lord as my personal savior 3 years ago but the church I was going to left me feeling empty so I stopped attending before I got caught up. But after my encounter last night ... I am hopeful - very hopeful that I will be able to make a connection again.
let's face it, it seems like a simplification of the df process as many of you have already mentioned.. within the 6 million or so jw worldwide, there has to be a good number of ppl that are on the fringes of being dfed.
in the past, it took time to technically df these ppl because of the no-shows at judicial hearings and appeals.
also dfing a person can be delayed when no actual proof can be provided of the sin committed.
I think another point worth mentioning is the fact that some who disassociated themselves demanded that no announcements be made in reference to them being disfellowshipped / disassociated or they would bring legal action against the Tower and it's officers ... this new 'announcement' sounds a lot like CYA.
this thought has sprung from recent threads and speculation over the new book.
i know many who post here are still active jw's or ones who were df'd, but may have not totally left the belief system.
many have trouble with the methods and policies of the wt concerning dfing, restrictions, blood, local elders etc.
I agree with a lot of the other posts for reasons NOT to return:
No more organized religion for me
No more meeting "MEN'S" standards for living (and pleasing God)
No more "fake" friends
No more MEETINGS, no more FIELD SERVITIDE
No more NONSENSE
No more B***S***
I'm gone for good
AHHH .... Sweet Freedom
Sweet Tee
i heard recently that jw men are not allowed to have beards - is this correct and what about ct russell?
I always thought that was a stupid rule. Last I heard, sisters were discouraged from wearing braids (extensions). One pioneer sister gave a presentation at CA wearing a wig. When the brother giving the part was told she had braids under the wig he was furious . He said "if I knew she was wearing braids under that wig I wouldn't have let her give her part".
What a bunch of dweebs! NO PERSONAL FREEDOM WHATSOEVER!!!
just got my memorial invite.
the only thing new about this year, is my knowledge ... due mostly from finding this site.
i normally take the invite from my mom, tuck it away to hit the trash along with those mags she leaves all time.
Being a Witness was tiresome to me. You may not know it, but perhaps your mom is tired too and just hanging in there hoping to see her dream of a paradise earth come true. I believe a lot of Witnesses secretly want to be 'normal' from time to time (like around the holidays). It's no fun living in fear. Don't give up on your mom. Remember how we were taught that our conduct could win a person over without even a word? Let you conduct, your happiness and sincerity about life, and most important, the sincere and unconditional love you have for your mother (and all people I hope) be a testimony to her. Hopefully, when she has questions/doubts about org. she'll come directly to you for the answers.
My heart breaks for you - I can't imagine life without having my mother to talk to about anything.
Being a Witness was tiresome to me. You may not know it, but perhaps your mom is tired too and just hanging in there hoping to see her dream of a paradise earth come true. I believe a lot of Witnesses secretly want to be 'normal' from time to time (like around the holidays). It's no fun living in fear. Don't give up on your mom. Remember how we were taught that our conduct could win a person over without even a word? Let you conduct, your happiness and sincerity about life, and most important, the sincere and unconditional love you have for your mother (and all people I hope) be a testimony to her. Hopefully, when she has questions/doubts about org. she'll come directly to you for the answers.
My heart breaks for you - I can't imagine life without having my mother to talk to about anything.
i try not to draw conclusions .
about things with ?absolute?
certainty, especially not something as subjective as the belief in an almighty.. .
Great post Taylor S. And RIGHT ON THE MONEY!!! Just think, if we were born in the Middle East, what religion would we be then? Would we believe what we were taught with our whole hearts? Would we be willing to die and even kill for our beliefs?
I have taken this as the one true statement taught to me by Jehovah's Witnesses
RELIGION IS A SNARE AND A RACKET!!!
You do not need a religion to have a relationship with your creator. The choice is up to us individually. And if there is a God; I agree with you that he will judge us according to what is in our hearts. Not based on some religious affiliation. If he's watching, he knows full well how screwed up things are down here. I don't believe he will hold us accountable for being deceived. I was deceived by the Witnesses but I still believe that God 'will not forget my good works, and the love that I showed for his name.'
there's a lot of new ones here and they might not be familiar with the fact that not everyone is truthful or necessarily looking out for your best interests.....is there any thing a "newbie" or for that matter any of us should keep in mind while on the internet?
I read a lot before I started posting here. And nothing I say cannot be known by the world because it's all true (at least from my perspective .
I'd say, be careful, reading these posts can be addictive! (gotta go ... conference call in 20 mins)
hi i am a newbie!!
i dont want to put a big post about my life here just yet, because, well, its just not that interesting!
i am here to learn, meet new people and find a bit about myself.
First of all let me say; WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!
We're all here to support one another in our journey out of/or since leaving the org. The people on this and other websites have helped me tremendously. I'm sure their stories and insights/research and experiences will help you too.
ENJOY!
has anybody invited you to go to the memorial this year?
do you expect to be invited?.
usually elders come over a few days before to invite me, but they didn't come yet....
I wish he could show me where Jesus or any of the apostles said you must go with a group of others, into a building called a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses, and refuse to eat wine and bread passed in front of you on Nisan 14.
Good one G!